Darika looks at relationships

Pa Darika,

Over Christmas, my 25 year old sister bought her first "serious boyfriend" to visit me in Bangkok. To my horror he is the guy that I see whenever I am on business in Pattaya and sleep with every time! I am gay and know that he is too. What should I do: tell her about him/us or say nothing?

Oh my goodness. Whenever Darika thinks she has heard and seen everything she receives a letter like this. As I ponder your letter for the umpteenth time quite a few questions float to the surface. To begin with, what was your friend’s reaction when introduced to his gig by the gig’s sibling?  (Darika would have loved being there just for that.) Where did your sister meet him? Was he wearing a number at the time? And why is she just having her first “serious” relationship at 25? Obviously your shared playmate is a gigolo and he will disappear from the scene in short order anyway. In the end your sister’s dignity and your own should be your primary concern. If you do not talk honestly and openly with her she may be emotionally scarred for life. I suggest you present her with a giant pair of scissors and ask how she would like to divide the young man into equal portions. (Please take the scissors away afterwards.) And make it clear that during their weekend visit you expect conjugal rights. Your young gentleman probably will not show up anyway. He has not accomplished so much in life by being stupid.

Dear Darika

I've been with my farang partner for almost 8 years and we both HIV positive, at the moment we both considering to be quite healthy under HIV medication that we have been taking for years.

I moved from Thailand to be with him after I graduated 6 years ago so we can be together and look after each other. We had been through a very tough time and I was there for him when his health hits rock bottom a few years ago, it was indeed a very tough time for both of us.

After I arrived here I also studied hospitality management. The thing is, I really miss my family and friends and the most important thing is I can not get my career going, after a few years I am still working in hotels and restaurants and still can not progress into management side (I'm currently 27 years old).

I feel like if I go back to Thailand I may be able to get a better job there but my partner doesn't want to live there and I don't want to leave him here by himself in case he might get sick again I'd beat up myself to death for leaving him. What should I do? Do I have to choose between my career and my love one??

Yes, darling. You have to choose. Darika was about to suggest that you flip a coin, but I managed to reach back to my distant past to the life-changing training I received from Werner Erhard. (Google him.) I got it that it’s OK to be an overweight, overworked, overly theatrical drag queen and it’s my own fault that can’t find decent eye liner. I also got it that nobody delivers happiness or success to you and there is no such thing as “fate.” You can not be responsible for your boyfriend’s health. That is his responsibility, just as he can not be responsible for your career, your health, or anything else of yours. My dear, I can see that you are struggling to give yourself permission to make a big change in your life and I am crossing my fingers for you. My permission won’t do you any good. So, do you want to use a quarter, ten baht, or face up to the fact that you already have the answer to your own question?

Dear Darika,

I have been dating a gorgeous underwear model for about three months now, and the sex has been outstanding, yet he cannot hold a decent conversation. His problem is intellectual rather than linguistic and seems to lack any emotion. Do I tell him to shut his mouth and just continue in this shallow relationship, where i am having the best sex of my 42 year old life, or find something more meaningful, so I feel less shallow?

Precious Reader,

Thank you for sharing your burden with Darika. I doubt that you are the only reader who is suffering through a vigorous relationship with a dimly lit companion.

As Darika has said in the past, Mr. Perfect died in a plane crash in 1996. We all miss him, but have to move on. You are probably more fortunate than you think you are in your relationship. To prove it, make a list of all the qualities that you require in a companion. In order of importance, my personal list begins with money, of course, followed by power, important friends, a knack for looking the other way when I am naughty, good conversation, tolerance of Turner Classic Movies ten hours a day, good looks and great sex. If I find someone who can carry my golf bag and is lousy at bridge, so much the better. My current long-term love is romantic, but not particularly sexual. He could pass for Mr. Perfect's younger brother because he is practically flawless in every other way. Most important, he puts up with me. What he is not able to provide is easily found elsewhere.

I doubt that your own list is limited to only sex and conversation, so conduct your own review of your priorities to determine how well he ranks with all of your personal requirements. If, in the end, all you are getting is fabulous sex, find someone else to carry your golf bag. And if you ever decide to dump him, let Darika know. I can always find a good use for an underwear model.

Kisses on yours,

Darika

P.S. Have you asked him how you rate with him?

Hi Darika,

So sad to know that what I am going to ask you falls under the subjects you may decline to answer. However, I am still trying to contact you with a hope that you can help me in some way.

I am an Asian guy and my friend is an Aussie guy. We unexpectedly met each other once in BKK a month ago when we were both on vacation. Things coming in naturally between us were astonishingly wonderful. We had a wonderful time together. I was heart-broken when saying goodbye to him (and subsequently I know he had similar feelings).  We are still writing, SMSing and talking over the phone to each other. I said I love him a week ago though we are currently oceans away from each other. He is a bit conservative as he had bad experience in gay love with a thai guy before. So he rarely uses the word LOVE with me.  I feel sad indeed. My question is: Do you really believe in gay love? (I have never loved anyone else though I am 28 now and I have heard that gay love is fragile in nature).  Was I too impulsive to say I love him? What could I do to help him overcome this fear and help him live with his true feelings for someone?

Dear Jason,

While reading your letter Darika was about to press the "delete" button until she came to the end. Normally I do not get involved in the inevitable drama of farangs and their long distance relationships with Thai boys. However, something you said you irritated the hell out of me, so you have earned an answer.

Where did you get this idiotic right-wing Christian notion that gay love might not exist? Who is to say that gay love is any different than straight love? Who taught you that one kind of love is any more or less fragile than the other? If you have a capacity to love--and to define what love means to you in the first place--you are no less entitled to hold someone in your heart than anyone else.

To use the "L" word is not very Thai. That fact that you are 28 and have never before shared your feelings with anyone verbally may not be unusual but is obviously a big step for you and something you should be proud of. Considering your friend's past experience and his "conservative" nature, however, this might have come off as a sales pitch rather than a genuine expression of your feelings. (Young Thai men are somewhat stigmatized. A few ruthless young Thai lads have rather spoiled things for the rest of you.) Now that you have said the magic word, however, it's best that you concentrate on showing him what you feel rather than telling him. Can you help him overcome his fear? Probably not. He needs to work on that himself, and men his age loathe working on themselves. In the mean time, go to the Australian embassy and get a visa application. Miracles can happen when you are in love. At least you will have something to rip to shreds when you figure out that he is just an opportunist and/or far more complicated than you are prepared to deal with. That's why Darika has a dog. They are stupid and love you unconditionally. What could be more perfect? Want a puppy?

Hi Darika,

Nop and I are best friends since we were eight. We went to the same schools. We both knew we were gay from the start, so we always depend on each in many ways.

We have never been in serious relationships. We like sex a lot. Even with each other long time ago. But now we like farang, and we usually dating two or three guys at the same time. When one of us meets a guy and we begin to spend time together the other does his best to steal the guy away. It is a fun game we play with each other and we always laugh together when we are finished.

Now I met someone new and the game started again. Nop slept with him already on the first week and they are still having sex sometimes. But I am in love with this guy and I feel really serious that I want to marry him. My problem is that Nop has feelings for my boyfriend also. I can already see big problems between Nop and me. How to get out of this?

Love, Bop

Your story is missing some crucial facts. Does the farang know that you and Nop are friends? Does he know that you know you are both sleeping with him? You also say nothing about how your “boyfriend” feels towards either of you. If he is still screwing Nop I doubt that he has the same serious feelings about you that you have for him. Assuming the worst, he is playing his own game with both of you. (Karma, darling.)

The first sentence of this reply was originally “Dump him.” But now that I have thought about it I really do not see why you need to change anything except your attitude, which is competitive and greedy. Mr. No-Name seems to be happy with both of you and you both seem to be happy with him. Why not share? And considering your history, my dear, you will both probably soon tire of him and move along to the next farang anyway.

When you feel the time is right to settle down, you should marry Nop. You are perfect for each other. You are indeed faad Siam .

Darika,

I just recently started to date this guy and hes really sweet and everything but we dont talk a whole lot, its not because we dont want to but we dont know what to talk about. Could you please give us some topics or questions to talk about to each other?

-- Amanda

Thanks for sharing your issue with Darika. Your problem is probably more common than you realize. I occasionally read of couples to do not have conversations for years, often ending in a bloody murder. Just as often I have read about someone who has murdered his or her spouse because they will not shut up.

As you probably know, Darika has had vast experience in the world of dating. The men in my life have ranged from the silent type to my current love, Mister Chatterbox. I love it that he has something to say and speaks his mind freely. In the case of the silent ones, we had little to say to each other because, for the most part, other things were a lot more interesting than conversation. These fellows were typically good at one thing only, and it was not chit-chat. As I age, however, I realize how much more I appreciate a guy who has something to say, which is usually evidence of a functional brain.

You have not really said whether you think your current dilemma is caused by one or both of you. If you have come to recognize that you are not the great conversationalist you thought you were, you still have time to learn. Perhaps nobody is better at conversation than those who make their living interviewing other people on television. Some years ago, Barbara Walters wrote a wonderful book entitled How To Talk To Anyone About Practically Anything. More recently, Larry King wrote How to Talk to Anyone, Anytime, Anywhere: The Secrets of Good Communication. Darika recommends that you read one or both.

Giving you a list of things to talk about (the weather? baseball?) and things to avoid (religion? politics?) will not help you at all. Being a good conversationalist begins with being a good listener. The truth is, everyone's favorite topic of conversation is themselves. Look back at some of the most wonderful talks you have had you will probably realize that the conversation was mostly about you and that the other person was an attentive listener who asked good questions and showed a genuine interest in you.

Perhaps you should set your relationship on a new path by showing a genuine interest in each other. You should, of course talk about your favorite topic--each other. Learn everything you can about him by asking him questions. Read the newspaper together and ask what his opinions are. However, Darika warns you that you might be disappointed. You could ultimately learn that he really has nothing to say and he might turn out to be one of those guys who is good at one thing only, and it ain't talking. Our would that be such a disappointment at all?

Love, Darika

Dear Miss Darika,

My boyfriend (he is also Malaysian) and I have been together for about three years. We are both busy professional people. Sam (not a real name) has a job that requires him to travel away from home about 50% of the time. Lately he has been traveling quite a bit, so we try to spend as much time together when he is here. We both enjoy swimming, shopping and movies. He has always been quite enjoyable to be with.

Sam left three days ago. He said he was going to Singapore for four days for his business.

Not long after he left someone was knocking on the door. Outside was a very handsome guy about my age. His t-shirt fit him quite snugly and it was obvious he spent a lot of time at the gym. He stared at me and said nothing for a long time. He looked very serious. Finally he said "You are my boyfriend's other boyfriend. I wanted to see who you are."

I invited him inside.

He explained to me that he had known Sam for about two years and that they lived together only a few km from here. He became suspicious about Sam's frequent trips when Sam's passport did not have many stamps. He paid one of his friends to follow Sam to our/my apartment.

There is more. He also learned that Sam also has a wife and small baby in Kuala Lumpur and his friend discovered where they live. He is with them now.

This news made me very upset, of course. At first I shouted at this visitor and I said some really terrible things to him. He did not react the same way. Unbelievable, he spoke softly to make me calm. Eventually I began to cry. I was hysterical. He put his arm around me to comfort me. It did not take very long before our clothes were off and we comforted each other quite well. I have to admit that it was stupendous. I can think of nothing but him for the past two days. Last night he phoned me to make sure I am alright and he is thinking of me as well. He wants to see me again soon.

Sam will return tomorrow. What can I do?


-- Donnie in KL

Dear Donnie,

Confrontation is the easiest solution, of course. Wouldn't it be delicious for Sam to return home and find both of you waiting together? However, Darika pleads with you to consider your other options calmly. It is obvious that "Sam" plays an important role in your life. It is also clear that the other boyfriend considers him important or he would not have bothered to visit you. Two or three years is a long time for a gay relationship to last, so part of it may be worth saving.

Consider this... When Sam returns, try not to behave badly or let him know that you know what he has been doing. Tell him you had a very bad day at work and that you have a terrible headache and want to be left alone. Give yourself some time to get hold of yourself and to think carefully about whether or not you want to end your relationship. You did not say you are finished with him, so I am not sure if this is an option for you or not.

The next time Sam plans to be away, phone the other boyfriend. If Sam plans to visit the wife and kid, you have the perfect opportunity to continue to comfort each other. Sooner or later Sam will be the suspicious one. If you and the spare boyfriend plan to continue your own relationship, the three of you may even be able to come to a creative solution that does not involve deceit.

Do not bother Sam's wife. (How do you know they are married anyway?) If she is any smarter than Sam's two boyfriends she will use her own creativity to protect herself and her child. Maybe you could all live together in a big house in the suburbs.

 Dear Darika,

Some months ago I met a young man who works in a go-go bar and fell in love with him. We recently traveled together on holiday. Before we parted he gave me the letter below. I am not sure what to think about it. What is your advice?

-- Bertie
 

"Throughout our summer vacation I needed to say sorry for what I did to you. First, I used the best summer vacation that you had in your mind to test some crazy kind of life by not having sex with you. But I wanted you to know that I only wanted to have a stable love when I am giving all my heart to someone. And my love must come first, not sex. If you can stay with me without having sex I will be glad. I believe that you have only me, regardless of how far away you are. Secondly, I know that you are not happy with my use of drugs and I swear all this new year that after the holiday I will not do it again. I will not make you sad. Thirdly, I know that I made myself boring, nonsensical, brainless, especially when you asked me what I wanted to do, where to go. And my only reply was "up to you, if you like." I know it was a boring answer. I must go to visit your home in (your country) and it will be the most wonderful time for us. That's what I hope. Thank you very much for the love you have given me. I feel warm, safe and happy, and I swear that I will be true to you until hell freezes over. I have never wanted to leave you and would like you to love me forever, and hope I will be your last love, just like the last page of this letter. Please take good care of yourself. Oodles of love. PS... You have passed my test. I will believe and accept the fate. I love you."

Dear Bertie,

Those who have read the classics remember the story in Homer's Odyssey about the isle of the Sirens. The songs of the nymphs on this island were so magical that sailors smashed their ships into the rocks. To pass safely, Ulysses filled his sailors' ears with wax and tied them to the masts. It seems you have met a modern-day nymph whose song is very strong.

It is universally understood that people of this young man's profession provide sex and the illusion of love and affection in exchange for money. The luckiest of them may from time to time meet one or more gentlemen who request more than just one night of pleasure. This becomes a financial opportunity for them and for their families, and sometimes even an opportunity to travel. Darika makes no secret of the fact that she knows many such young men and has found herself helping them from time to time. Unlike many other Westerners, however, I do not do this to "save" them because I do not object to prostitution as long as people are not forced to do this work against their will.

While stories like yours are told daily in Thailand. (Darika has heard every possible version.) I can not help but find myself somewhat outraged by the letter you received. Is it clear to you yet that the letter is all about him and nothing about you? Did he tell you how wonderful you are? How caring? How generous? Or what a wonderful companion you are? While he professed his love, he offered nothing, yet asked for a lot.

Darika must admit that she finds the entire matter of abstaining from sex to be somewhat insidious in several respects. He has managed to take advantage of your generosity without performing any of the obligations that you probably intended him to perform during your holiday together. At the end he reconciled this as some kind of a test. If you had known from the beginning that you were being tested you might have made different choices. This was a childishly cruel and dishonest thing for him to do. There is no suggestion from him that this no-sex arrangement will ever change, yet he implies that he expects you be his and his alone.

Your friend's use of drugs is alarming. Drugs are, of course, illegal in Thailand. In some cases the penalty for possession of drugs is death. Aside from the obvious health implications for your friend and the fact that you may be unwittingly sponsoring his drug use, you could be in a great deal of danger if the police find you in the company of anyone who has drugs in his possession. If this young man really has an addiction problem do you think he is going to tell you the truth about quitting? (Darika lied to her boyfriend for months about her tobacco addiction but was finally caught in the act. He was angry and disappointed with my dishonesty and I was embarrassed. No more Havanas for me, darling!)

Whether or not you have a future with this young man depends entirely on your needs and expectations and I suggest that you examine those very carefully. Long distance relationships practically never succeed, so you face multiple challenges. Darika shares your love for beauty and youth. When we are with a handsome young man we bask in those things as if they will magically rub off on us in some small way. There are plenty of decorative young men in Thailand to perform that service, and they may be replaced at will. However, if it is a loving, committed relationship you are looking for, this would be a good time to fill your ears with wax.

Dear Darika,

I am 24 years old and my boy friend is 27 years old, we are not living together but practice monogamous relationship.

Of course i need to worry since there are none of my friends can keep thier relationship to last. For me, gay relationship is fragile.

-- Sombong in Malaysia

Khun Sombong,

Congratulations for keeping a monogamous relationship. That is difficult for most men, especially at your age. You are right that gay relationships are fragile. There is no pressure from society, religion or law to stay together. If you want your relationship to last a long time the key is probably honesty and communication. It is OK to disagree as long as you both understand that disagreement does not spell the end of a relationship. Never go to bed angry. Never stop writing love letters. Give him little gifts for no reason. Remember that it is better to show someone that you love them then tell them. Take things one day at a time and enjoy every day you have together. Just remember that diamonds are forever, but nothing else is. After all, we all change with time and need different things. In 1968 Darika bought a beautiful new Volvo (which I named "Becky"). It was the loveliest car I ever saw and I vowed to keep her shiny and new forever. I washed Becky every Saturday, kept her in a garage at night, and made sure the oil was changed regularly. After about twenty years, however, I realized that it was just a junky old car. I bought a new Jaguar and gave the Volvo away. That Volvo gave me a lot of wonderful memories (particularly with Sven, my mechanic, who loved to help me test the parking brake at night). So I guess my best advice to you is that you should get as many miles as you can out of the sporty car your are driving now but keep in mind that the newer models look better and better every year.

Kisses and good luck, Darika

Dear Darika,

My farang boyfriend has told me that he refuses to buy any more skin whitening products. He has also thrown away my cleansing foam, shower gel and moisturizer because they are skin whitening. This has made me very angry. What do you think I should do about this? - “A”

Khun A,

To many farang, dark is sexy. Your boyfriend may be worried that your cosmetics are actually harmful. However, it is more likely that he is afraid you will lose one of the qualities that made you attractive to him in the first place—your complexion. Although Darika wonders why so many Thai people do not want to look Thai, it is important for you to make your boyfriend understand that you are not a child and that your appearance is up to you and not him. It was very childish of him to throw away your things. Hopefully, if you talk to him honestly and calmly he will understand that choices you make about grooming are an expression of how you feel about yourself. He also needs to understand that you are the same person who he fell in love with whether your skin is dark or light. If he does not, you should find a new boyfriend who is willing to share his own skin products with you.

Dear Darika,
 

I am approaching forty, professional guy living in Europe. Have had a relationship with a guy in Jomtien for four years. Met him in a bar, but he soon stopped that when we started boyfriending. I am not rich but still send him 10 thousand baht every month. He works sometimes (when I am not there) as a waiter and makes additional money from that. Then to the problem - every time he goes home to see his family he gives them almost everything he has. Even money that should have been spent on the rent of his room. His mother seems to think he does not need a television or VCD in his room, so that is now in the family house. So far I have bought new TV set and DVD for him, and paid the backlog of rent for his room repeatedly. We have a fight every time, and he knows this is a burden on my finances. Now he has done it again, and the rent for his room is unpaid. His mother says he is the oldest son and so he has to help. I can not pay any more than I have done already, there is just no way I could ever afford to feed that whole family. Have visited the family once. They were nice, but his mother wanted a new professional fridge and a new motorbike for the father. I managed to decline politely. This would not be such a problem if I did not love him, and feel miserable when he is in a jam. He jokes about going back to the bar sometimes, which really makes me sad. I do understand that he is in a squeeze too, from a demanding family and a poor husband. Don't know what I should do. I lay my life in your hands, and hope you can provide me with some guidance.

- Happiguy

Dear Happiguy,

You are not the first, nor will you probably be the last to describe this kind of problem and ask for Darika's advice. I have even been asked to intercede from time to time, to translate love letters, make sure the tuition is paid for the English classes, to see that a passport is issued and even to pay for the boyfriend's girlfriend's abortion. I hope you can bear Darika's candid advice.

Status is a fundamental value in Thailand, so you are quite a prize for both your young friend and his family. Nobody is probably as concerned about the strain that this is putting on you financially or emotionally as you are. Parents expect their adult children to provide for them. Everyone expects your generosity to be limitless. Why shouldn't mom take the TV when she knows you buy a new one for the boy? Why shouldn't she ask for a new refrigerator or a motorbike? If you can afford the rent, you can afford a fridge. If you can afford a refrigerator, you can afford a car.

Ten thousand baht a month is really quite a bit of money. How much happiness are you buying for $250? Have you considered the possibility that you may not be the only foreigner paying him an allowance? And since the young man no longer needs to work, what is he doing with his time? Is he making the most of it to improve his life? If you really do love him and really do feel miserable when he is "in a jam" (e.g., irresponsible with the rent money), have you considered insisting that he take a little responsibility for his own life? There is nothing dishonorable about working for 7-11 or Burger King. And for many Thais, there is also nothing dishonorable about working in a go-go bar. A foreigner who wants to "save" someone from this kind of work is imposing his own moral values where they do not belong and may subconsciously attempting to wash away his own guilt for having paid for sex. When your friend jokes about returning to his previous occupation, he is undoubtedly manipulating you because he understands that his former place of work is evil to most Westerners.

Darika is not ashamed to say that she was once in your situation long ago before she made her permanent home in Asia. The boy's mum suddenly had cancer. The family cow died. He needed 25,000 baht (twice!) to avoid military service. On my regular visits, I redeemed the same gold necklace from the same pawn shop half a dozen times. Then there were the tearful long distance pleas for cash in the middle of the night, charges reversed. Clearly Darika was just a bag of money with big hair. Ultimately I decided that keeping what little self respect I had left was more important than keeping this "boyfriend."

Darika has never seen a happy ending to a story like yours. Your friend and his family will survive if you cut him loose tomorrow. After you have a big cry, I suspect you will feel no less loved than you feel now. I am sorry if this advice shatters your illusions about your relationship. However, Darika suspects you had already figured this out for yourself anyway.

Good luck!

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